I recently asked about content and sourcing from Reuters on the sitepoint forum. I couldn’t believe my eyes at one response. I posted my thoughts here as my sitepoint account could be at risk.
My question was: "is it ok to edit content from Reuters?"
Although some users agreed and made the important point that it needs to be changed (they said 70%, I think 100%) I was slightly perturbed when a highly exalted ignoramus made her attempt at vindication through the use of much plastic talk and poor epistemology.
In reply to my question above this is the response I got from "Shyflower":
"Oh good grief! You "edit" someone else's content and that makes it yours? Ridiculous. Changing 98% of something is still plagiarism if you don't have anything of your own to add to it that makes it unique. In fact, it's near impossible to make a unique article out of anything if you're only "researching" it with one source. "
“If you want to be a good writer, then do it right. Don't hack someone else's content. Chances are, they said it better than you ever could."-- Shyflower
Why this is completre rubbish
Let me explain why this is utter bull. Apologies if this is a bit rich, but its logic; canned and bottled for your rational viewing pleasure.
There are only so many arguments (views) in the world about a topic. If you are stupid you will think that someone with the same opinion as someone else (who has also written a similar article) is guilty of plagiarism, even though it is changed 100%. If this is the case however, 75% or more of internet content is plagiarised.
Does that sound remotely realistic? Fancy trying to sue someone for thinking the same thing. Also, how do you copyright an event? You can't. Thirdly, what some people write in 1000 words, some can shorten to 500. Each time it becomes more untraceable.
Let’s say I look out the window tomorrow and see a pig flying through the air; and I’m so taken up that I don’t notice a Reuter’s court order being posted through my door. Well, when I do get round to opening it, then it would make an extremely poor attack of my defence, should the matter reach litigation.
If the proposal was that I had copied content, then the four details mentioned in their report could have quite easily have been discussed in a conversation with a friend. That's right. Those very same details could have been discussed with a friend who has a friend nearby the scene or whatever. It's a small world after all. Straight away the case flops. In the world of law, if you can't prove something happened, then it never happened. Shame really.
Total contradiction
Then she wrote this:
"Rewriting someone else's work is still plagiarism. Unique writing takes the thoughts and ideas of many and puts them into an author's own mind, allowing the author to form his/her own thoughts and present them through his/her writing."-- Shyflower.
If you edit someone else’s work 100%, then all you have done is taken their thoughts and ideas- You complete fool. By your own non-logic that would be multiple plagiarism. This is in fact a long winded paraphrase of what I said at first. So I can agree with her on one thing: "Chances are, they said it better than you ever could."
It gets better (worse):
"That doesn't mean that every hack can take their content, change a few words, put it on their website and call it their own. That is plagiarism in the real world."
The problem you have is that you are stupid. I mentioned changing 100% of the content. Not changing a few words. This means that you are day dreaming and not in the real world still. Please, stay with us
The best part is, she then copied and pasted copyright info that wasn't her own and didn’t even link back to the site!
Shyflower, if you are reading this you are a dumb ignoramus. You are not logical enough to win I’m afraid. Your epistemology is devastating. Good afternoon.
Ps: I thought the content on your site was so good I made it my own. Thankyou so much, darling.
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